Messy Tuesdays, and Thrifting a Holiday Wardrobe

*WARNING: contains Some Ranting*

Mark actually pointed out that this ought to be my Messy Tuesdays post image for today. My wardrobe often gets into this kind of state. I find this reflective of my sense of overwhelm and distress surrounding clothes. Questions concerning how I should dress myself in relation to the larger issues of economics, clothes, feminism, consumerism and identity totally drown me and my wardrobe on a day to day basis, which is how this kind of mess accrues. My normal approach to clothing myself is to chuck on whichever jeans and t-shirt are on top of the pile (usually yesterday’s garments) and just wear them repeatedly until they have to be washed because they smell. Whilst I enjoy some of the personal freeedoms associated with this behaviour, I feel I am missing out on some of the positive aspects of developing an individual style and some of the joys that other people undoubtedly experience whilst engaging – in a positive way – with how they dress.

Fashion overload.

To break my problem with clothes down, let’s begin with economics. I am utterly confused about what clothes are actually worth or how much I ought to expect to spend on clothes and shoes from year to year. I don’t understand what a ‘cheap’ item of clothing means. I don’t understand what ‘good value’ is anymore. I can no longer meaningfully discern the relationship between the garment and the price tag attached to it when I look at things to buy. I always leave clothes shopping feeling panicked and sick at the dizzy excesses of shop after shop full of things I am meant to buy now and throw away in six weeks time. Perhaps I ought to sit down and calculate a clothes budget for myself, work out exactly what I have to spend on clothes per year and then plan a personal style around that. Perhaps I ought to coordinate my sewing, knitting and clothes budgets into one, well-organised, systemic approach that answers and cares for many of my difficulties with clothes… What do others do to cope with the eye-boggling array of clothes thrust upon us from The High Street? Please advise.

Having been unemployed or a student for the past four years, I have not had huge amounts of dispensable income and so have gravitated towards shopping in cheap places like Primark or George at ASDA for my clothes. I feel extremely guilty about this as there are so many things I don’t agree with about how such clothes are made, but I am genuinely short on alternative strategies for dressing myself. While money does play a part in shaping my decisions, I think that terror and denial are much greater factors in determining that I will inevitably end up in Primark when I am desparate for new clothes (I do need to be desperate to go clothes shopping.) And since everything on The High Street appears to have been made in sweatshops, I don’t really understand why it is fundamentally worse to buy from Primark than, say, GAP.

As well as feeling morally conflicted around the whole issue of where I buy my clothes from, I also appear to be utterly out of step with the way that I feel about my cheap clothes. I value all my clothes deeply; how much I paid for them doesn’t really enter into that. I still have (and wear) a dress that I got in Croydon for my 15th Birthday Party. I don’t care that it cost me £10 and is, by all conventional standards, a cheap, throw-away garment; it is mine and has become a part of my life in a way that makes it hard for me to toss it aside.

Here is the pile of clothes I am hoping to bring on holiday with me this year, rescued fom my wardrobe overspill:

From left to right we have:

*Jigsaw skirt, ruined by a couple of bleach stains and donated to me by someone who was throwing it away
*blue print skirt from New Look bought new in 2004, one of my most treasured items of clothing in spite of a brown paint stain
*black, flowery print top, also donated to me by a friend who it no longer fitted
*polka dot bag from Primark in 2003, it cost like £2 and is wonderful from its durable canvas strapping to its unfussy and perfectly functioning zipper
*Green and brown *beautiful* skirt with large polka dots, bought for me as a gift by Mark in celebration of my enormous weight losses last year
*Pink silk scarf bought in a charity shop basket in Ireland sometime in 2001 and treasured ever since
*blue smock thing from Primark either last year or the year before, when I put on loads of weight and suddenly found I had nothing to wear

I am sure Gok’s Fashion show would make mincemeat of this precious and personal collection of items. I am sure that my 4-year old pairs of knickers would expose me – in fashion terms – as some kind of self-loathing failure. But if I ironed all these clothes, carefully photographed them and re-presented them in the format of a fashion-page feature, wouldn’t they then seem transformed? And this is where the confusion happens to me with clothes. When does something that looks beautiful on its hanger in a store suddenly become ‘that old thing’? In the hopes of transforming the eclectic heap of clothes in my wardrobe into some kind of meaningful and coherent personal ‘range,’ and by way of feeling better about my clothes and how they are made, I have begun to revamp things I already own, and to try and learn how to sew things myself. But in terms of economics, this is an extremely confusing (and expensive) process. The pattern I have bought in order to make a beach-top, (which cost £6.50) has sat in its terrifying packet on my desk, unused, since I bought it. The salvaged sarong and costly Alexander Henry Fabric (around £8.00) that I got on ebay many months ago has also sat, unsewn. I spent an additional £5 on fabric dye to get the saved sarong to be the correct shade of blue and I have also spent money on threads and bias binding. In some ways this does all add up to something closer to what I imagine an actual garment to be *worth,* but so far these costly composites are nowhere near being available to wear. For I am terrified of ruining the materials, of making a mistake and of screwing it up and so have not been able to face sewing it. I pin and baste and do my best, but everything goes to crap. Like this destroyed yellow butterfly dress which I got for my BA graduation which looked wonderful when I was a size 18 but which now hangs off me like a little chiffon cloud, I tend to butcher anything I try to repair or modify.

Edward Scissorhands and the butterfly dress.

I would love to be able to sew not least because it would give me the means to adjust and modify my treasured items of clothing when my weight goes up and down. I don’t know how other women stay at a constant size but I am like a yoyo. Observe 2 dresses – one I bought in a sale about 5 years ago for a wedding and one that was donated to me by a friend – from the past few years. One dress is a size 10 and the other is around an 18. This represents the insanity of my wardrobe and explains a lot of the shapeless or stretchy items that I possess. Both of these are going for sale on ebay when I get back from Naples, as I have no idea how to make them wearable and fear a reprise of the destroyed butterly dress fiasco.

Having listed the dresses I can’t wear, the one I have destroyed and the clothes that are coming on holiday with me, I have nearly sorted the entire Messy Tuesdays mess. Let us now observe the mending pile.

Thankfully I am not so incompetant with a needle and thread that I cannot put buttons on these things and take out the cardboard lining in the beach-bag that prevents me from washing it. The question is: will I have time to do it before going away on Thursday?

And finally, the hand-knits pile. The hand-knitting is my fashion boon. It is the one place in my wardrobe and clothing that I feel happy and safe, and where I am not plagued with self-doubt, recrimination and confusion. Whilst the array of yarn-shops is dazzling and I can definitely overspend, I am much more confident, once I have knit something myself, that I understand its true economic value to me and that I understand the relationship between what it has cost me to produce it and how much i love it.

I have to plan my knitting carefully because it is costly and time-consuming, but I am getting better at managing, acquiring and using up the stash. I can directly support businesses with ethical policies that I agree with when I buy yarn, and I can be happy with the way it is turned into clothes, because I do that part myself. On the other hand, there isn’t time to make all the clothes I need in time for everything I need clothes for and I am aware that what I have said about yarn here completely bypasses some of the confusing aspects of yarn-acquisition and consumerism that other bloggers have more carefully covered in their posts.

…and I am aware that the issues surrounding sweat-shop production, how we buy clothes, how we deal with weight gain and weight loss, how we value the contents of our wardrobes etc. and the role that clothes play in terms of shaping and affirming identity, are very complex and that I haven’t really covered the half of it here. But I wanted to put some of my confused, messy thoughts up here and ask if others have experienced any of the same confusions I have, when it comes to clothes and the overall management of the wardrobe.

What resources have you found, that were helpful? What strategies employed? For those of you who sew, HOW? And for those of you who have found peace with your wardrobes, what did it take?

I have some goals around clothes, with indeterminate dates but precise ideals:

  • To learn to make and adjust my own trousers. To find one style of trouser I really like and to perfect it, in a signature ‘style’
  • To have fewer clothes, but to value, mend, repair and cherish all the things I *do* wear
  • To watch even fewer fashion programmes reducing my current ‘once in a blue moon’ to ‘never’
  • To maintain a fairly constant size and weight, so I don’t have to forever deal with being different dress-sizes
  • To budget clothes, yarn and sewing materials as one thing
  • To understand clothes better

13 Responses to Messy Tuesdays, and Thrifting a Holiday Wardrobe

  1. SRW says:

    This is a brilliant post, and touches on loads of ideas I’ve been tossing around in my head (and my wardrobe) for a while. I’m off to grab the camera and start work on a reply…

  2. katieh says:

    Ok firstly I have absolutely no truck with the idea that clothes should be bought, used and thrown away in a matter of weeks.

    i just refuse to buy into it.

    full stop.

    instead, i have spent quite a bit of time working out what clothes actually suit me. i know – for example that i am a pear shape, and that i have big boobs. being a stone heavier or lighter isn't actually going to change those fundamental aspects of my shape all that much, so for me skinny legged trousers are never going to work, but loose legged, or bootlegged always are.

    and they are always available somewhere, and i always feel good in the right pair.

    with tops, given my larger chest, a few good bras are important, and needs replacing annually. (i stopped wearing underwire when i got pregnant, and technically my chest measurement has gone up about 2" since i got measured for the non-underwire ones i'm wearing now, but they're fine in the cup (no four boobs for me!), so i bought a couple of back extenders for £3 total i think, and thus they are fine for the next couple of months until the baby arrives and i need maternity bras…)

    where was i?

    oh yeah, so v neck tops work for me, and boat neck tops look good too. basically if it's not high neck, i'm probably good to go.

    i spent some time pouring over what not to wear books, worked out what worked for me, tried lots of stuff i wouldn't normally try on in shops without buying anything to prove myself wrong and right, and worked out a loose set of rules that i apply when clothes shopping.

    (Kim and I have a rule – "it's either fabulous or hidious." and anything that isn't totally right for you in every sense with regard to clothes, is automatically hidious. Thus it doesn't matter how great the fit is, and how cute the style makes you look if the colour makes you look like you're about to keel over with consumption. – this actually happened, and meant that kim didn't spend over £100 on a dress that she never would have worn. if it's hidious, take it off, put it back, and never look at it again.)

    i don't think about fashion – i think about having my own style. (seriously – fashion can go fuck itself. it's just an attempt to get me to buy more stuff, and i'm not listening.)

    Because of this, i actually don't have that many clothes.

    i mean the pregnancy has affected that one, but even so, that has taken the following items of clothing out of action:
    – 2 pairs of jeans
    – 2 pairs of workout trousers for walking in
    – 4 a-line skirts
    – 4 pairs of thick wool/cotton tights
    – 1 huge ruffly skirt that tends to get used for going out
    – 1 dress for looking nice in

    instead i have:

    – 1 black wrap dress
    – 2 pairs of loose-legged viscose trousers that are super comfortable, look really cute and go with everything (1 grey, 1 brown)
    – 7 t-shirts that are either maternity, or in some way gathered at the front, so that there is room for the bump.
    – a stretchy band called a Bella Band which i used to hide open jeans, when they wouldn't do up any more, and which now hold my viscose maternity trousers up, and work like an extra layer visually, which means i can wear my older tee-shirts even though they ride up.
    – a wrap cardigan in silver/grey
    – oh and the tunic i handknit, which covers up where my older vest tops REALLY ride up.

    and that's it.

    i know lots of people who have piles and piles of clothes. that would drive me mad. i wouldn't know where to start. i wouldn't be able to remember what fitted, and what looked nice, and what goes well with what.

    i would have to be ruthless and send at least half of them to the charity shop.

    other things… (i'm either on a roll, or just taking up room now.)

    I don't shop at primart. i *did* used to shop at H&M when i was at university, but to be honest, i regretted most of my purchases. i have spent years LOATHING shopping, but now have a few shops that i find work for me most of the time, and buy 1 or 2 (and really only 1 or 2) things from them every six months or so.

    the sweatshop stuff does make me think – and i wish that shops like people tree made stuff that i actually looked nice in, but right now they don't. i try to keep my ethics in mind, but if nothing else, i try not to buy too much, so that no one really gets very much of my money. if you see what i mean?

    i like stuff that feels nice when i wear it, and looks like it won't fall apart in a few months, i try to pick up replacements for items that are worn out in the sales of shops that i like (though mainly on line, rather than in the actual shops since sales are usually crap.)

    i make my own a-line skirts. This is not hard.

    i knit cardigans, and accessories, and shop around, and concentrate on colours i love, (oh and i made a personal rule to not wear black – which i only broke with the black wrap dress).

    my clothes have homes – so i know where all my vest tops are, and where all my trousers are, and where my long sleeved t-shirts are. that said, i don't have very much storage, so their home might be 'the right side of that drawer' dirty stuff goes straight in the wash basket, and stuff that can be worn again is in a basket by my side of the bed.

    i don't keep stuff around that is never going to fit me again, or which i don't want to go back into.

    i've always admired your sense of style. for what it's worth, it just sounds like you have too many clothes, or two at least too much of one sort of clothes and not enough of another. (i spent along time with too many tops, and not enough trousers.)

    god i hope this doesn't makes me sound up my own arse.

    ok apart from this bit which i know *is* going to make me sound totally up my arse – not *everything* is a feminist dilemma. Not every outfit needs to be a statement, and it's not always necessary to over-think things, when frankly the decision was made when you took those items to the till, however long ago that was.

  3. the frog princess says:

    Oh man, how much do I find myself in the same predicament as you? Lots. (Except my size has fluctuated less, but only because I have wide shoulders and hips.)

    After art school and art-job suddenly gave way to city receptionist job, I finally figured out a style that worked for me – and a set of reliable US shops. I also had a budget that allowed me to buy good quality basics. Now? I have no reliable shops, no style save the one I imported, which is a bit incompatible with my current work.

    I also don’t fit the UK “normal shape” in bottoms – i.e. I have a big bottom and a relatively small waist, so things that fit my waist don’t fit my hips and vice versa.

    Where AM I supposed to shop? My middle-class eco-social-guilt wears on me, as well as my lack of budget. OK, so I could make my own things, but then I worry – do my homemade things LOOK homemade?

    As for wardrobe management, I’m actually pretty good about that. Sort of. I got rid of lots of things when I moved, and I haven’t acquired much since. Which is a form of management through avoidance. 😛

    Thank you, however, for your entry, which has reminded me that paint-stained things are salvageable with a bit of clever applique. My stripy skirt will one again become work-wearable!

    I like your goals, but why fewer fashion shows? (OK, Gok’s shows yes, but I do love mes ome Project Runway.)

  4. Lisa from Sleeps in Oysters says:

    Oh my god, take a breath woman! First of all I am the queen of second hand shopping so we need to go on a shopping trip together and you will see it can be fun and ethical and developing your own unique style all in one go. Come London-wards on your next free day. Plus if you get the exciting and eccentric items second hand you can just supplement your wardrobe with staples (knickers, tights, plain t-shirts, and so on…) from the high street. I understand occasionally you just want something new and completely up to date so thats when to hit the high street – but when it’s quiet (plan ahead – think weekday mornings.)That’s about all I can offer via the web, regarding the to sew/alter/re-work old clothes issue I could write a book. Instead of me doing that just invite me for tea and homebaking one day! Love you lady – don’t panic you always look like super anyway!

  5. colleen says:

    What a fantastically thoughtful piece this is. I think you hit the nub when you distinguish the difference between value and price. This is not about economic value (price) but about what you truly value – be that ethical production, effort, or the loveliness of something- the feel shape, colour or even smell. You are lucky if you can get all that in one item. The fact that you can put a date on your clothes bears thinking about. Why? Wear what makes you feel good. That stuff lasts for a long time. (And read Justine Picardie’s “My Mother’s Wedding Dress” if you have time. Insightful on memories and clothes). Have a lovely time in Naples.

  6. The Queen of Fifty Cents says:

    I think when we get too much stuff around us we get sensory overload and start to short circuit! I had to get rid of a ton of clothing to find any peace. I started by hanging all the hangers in the closet backward, and when I wore a piece turned the hanger around front ways. You can soon see what you actually wear, and can get rid of the rest. I sold stuff on eBay, and donated to a charity. Now, nothing goes in my closet unless it’s ready to wear–clean and ironed–which I can do because I have less stuff.

    The other thing that has worked for me is, I no longer buy clothing in stores. I’m lucky enough to find more than I need at garage sales, often paying fifty cents or a dollar, almost never more than two. This way I can have inexpensive clothing that is still good quality (often designer brands). And I’m much more willing to experiment with something I paid just a little for.

    I know not everyone has access to as many garage sales as we have here, but thrifted clothing can give you a lot of freedom. If nothing else you’re not tied to whatever is currently popular, and can experiment with finding what you love.

  7. wazz says:


    I am confessedly a total clothes obsessive. This isn’t just a matter of dressing myself either — I often buy (or bought, until this year) dresses in charity shops that didn’t fit, and that I didn’t have any intention of altering or wearing, simply because they were lovely, fabulous finds (droopy and brown suit, katherine hamnet dress, etc etc). On occasion, I have proudly presented these finds to Mr B. His response is usually “but that’s absolutely hideous” and when I retort “but I’ve no intention of actually *wearing* it” I realise the full depth of my obsession.

    I do have conflicting attitudes towards this part of me – about whether my clothes-obsessions are creative, or just shallow and materialistic. I really love to dress up.

    I’ve always liked chazzashop and jumble sale shopping. My friday nights when I was a teenager were generally spent at jumble sales all over the north west. But now I find renewed pleasure in both knitting and sewing – making and moderating things to suit MY body. (No boobz, boys figure + weird anomalies – such as me massive calves – no sexy boots for me). Making things is, as you say, empowering and cuts through that terrible disenfranchised feeling one gets when trying on Nice Things That Fit Badly in swanky shops (ie: ‘if only this fit me properly THEN I would be the sort of woman who could shop here’ etc)

    I have been watching GOK with horified fascination – particularly the bit where he “GOKS UP” the high street dresses in a catwalk equivalent of changing rooms. Hmm. All this requires More Thought.

  8. Lara says:

    Felix, Felix. It probably won’t surprise you that I do have some views on this subject! Excellent post by the way.

    Firstly, your style is fabulous – individual, flamboyant and very Felix. Do not fret about the clothing issue.

    I am currently re-working my wardrobe, years of being student and working in low paid job meant that since changing jobs I have had to think about my appearance at work quite a bit. I’m currently clearing out my wardrobe – binning old underwear, sending to charity shops reusable clothes I don’t feel good in, recycling clothes which frankly no one can use, keeping clothes which fabric I really like but making sure I cut them somewhere so I can’t keep wearing them. Some of it is really difficult, the top shop tops which I have loved and worn for years look really faded so they are going to have to go but in all I feel quite happy about this. I’m focusing on having fewer things, that I love, look after and feel good in. It will make storage, washing and looking after them loads easier in the long run.

    I also have no truck that clothes should be bought, used and thrown away and I actually think how much you paid for something is irrelevant. I have had tops which I loved and reworn for the best part of ten years that were £5 from Topshop and I had a cardigan from Jigsaw which was pricey and fell apart the second time I wore it. I read an article recently about how clothing waste is a massive issue for landfill especially mixed fibres so I think less is the way forward.

    Ethics are so difficult. As you know I spend my life tying myself up in knots about similar subjects. In a former life I organised a series of fair-trade fashion shows which was a nightmare – this was early 2000 so before a lot of trendy ethical places opened up. I was sent a mass of hideous clothes in which I ruthlessly cut out things which frankly would give fair-trade fashion a bad name. Now, there are many more places to go to get ethical clothes but loads of them are really expensive or really cut for boyish figures (I’m looking at you Howies and People Tree). So I still shop on the high-street, M&S I consider is guilt-free shopping now with Plan A and they do really good fair-trade organic cotton tops (as does Sainsburys), I still shop Top Shop – I love it but I have to buy things from it I really love. Also I get really cross with the whole "green living" agenda is often only focused on ethical consumption rather than actually cutting down how many things we all have.

    Now, Primark is a casing point – I have bought things from Primark that I really liked and was gutted when the bag I loved fell apart really quickly and I still have one top that I adore. I don’t think Primark is evil – l agree that most high street chains are using sweatshop labour so I don’t think Primark is any worse than Gap or H&M. Sweatshop labour is a really difficult thing to avoid and you have to choose which ethical things are important to you. My main problem with Primark is that the whole place is geared to make you spend money buying clothing crap – way more than you need. Last time in Oxford street I ended up having a panic attack because I got stressed by the way everything was geared to buying loads.

    My new strategy is to refocus my wardrobe around things I really love and planning it and also acknowledging that my wardrobe is worth spending money on and that its ok that thrift shopping doesn’t work for me – I always ending buying things I won’t wear again because it doesn’t suit. I'm trying to develop a tangible "work wardrobe" to try and keep work and home clothes separate. Also to save time so I have a sort of uniform for work.

    I have gaps in my wardrobe which need filling for example, I need a new pair of jeans and black trousers for work, I’m going to save for work clothes I need (like a new suit which I plan for next spring) and I’m planning some winter clothing purchases carefully – I’ll probably wave the boden catalogue in front of you when I see you! It has post-its in it and everything. I’m making a list of things that I like in it and working out what I can buy and when. (And for a cute denim skirt – I’m waiting for the sale!!) I’m also starting to think about how my knitting (should I finish items) will fit with that, not very rigorously but definitely how my knitting can supplement and enhance my wardrobe.

    My mum has a lot of clothes but she also spends time looking after them, mending, cleaning, airing and ironing clothes which also makes a difference and she manages to keep things looking really fresh for years and years. She has clothes which are older than me.
    I also have homes for clothes – they might not always get there and instead spend time on my floor so this is what I'm also going to work on over the next couple of months.

    Stay with it – go to Naples and enjoy the sun and come back revitalised. Maybe think about doing a dressmaking course in autumn to improve your sewing if that would give you pleasure.
    Also totally ditch items that are too small – they will just make you feel wretched or put them away under your bed, in the attic until you need them again. As everything I reckon planning is the key and you are super good at that!

  9. wazz says:

    PS and from what I’ve seen you are already a woman of Great Style

  10. Cinders says:

    a very thought provoking post. being on a limited income I have no choice but to head for primark and Adsa. except I’m a larger lady and usually buy my stuff from Evans. unfortunately these days I have to dress down in trackies and baggy tops because of the pain I’m in.

    With regard to the ethical debate there was an interesting programme on the Beeb a couple of months ago where they sent clothes obssesed, shallow teenagers to India to see how their clothes were made and to work in the sweat shops. it was horrific, but an interesting flip side came out of the show. If we didnt buy these clothes the people working in the sweatshops would have no income and starve so it made one think. not that I support awful working conditions and pay you understand.

  11. janet says:

    So. I have a hard to fit body (relatively narrow frame big boobs, voluptuous butt, skinny waist, small belly). SO buying clothes is tricky for me, too.
    Pants of choice: Jeans. Fortunately, although I have a predominantly office job, they are perfectly acceptable. I’ve managed to find a pair that are a recurring style at a jeans place, so when i need a new pair, it’s a matter of walking in and grabbing them off the shelf. Dark blue and black are good year in year out. The FANTASTIC thing abut jeans is that you only need a couple of pairs if you are worried about people noticing you wear the same thing over and over again, as somehow jeans are exempt from this kind of notice. (If you buy a good fit, they are also comfortable over a reasonable amount of figure variance. In my jeans, I’m a 12 over at least a 7kg variation)
    Black slacks are good for work or nighttime- the trick is to find a good pair. Take time about getting them, and , when you find them, try to buy two. (IF your purse allows it. Unless, I guess, you are at the extreme end of a weight shift. I don’t have as much of a hard time as you, but I always kick myself when I only buy one if I could have afforded two of a usable piece like work pants) Once again, a fit that looks good on you will last for years.
    THe mystery of shorts I have’nt worked out yet, as I look much better in skirts. I find a trumpet shape, in a reasonably heavy cotton is best. If it’s reasonably heavy, you don’t need to face the waistband – just edge it securely and bind it. I also get lazy and move the side zip to a front panel, where it turns into buttons instead.
    With tops, I think the most important thing is having a bra that fits well and is cmfortable. Good shaped breasts make many a shirt look better. Have a pretty, well fitting set for special occasions, or for days when you’re feeling bleh. (Well, feeling pretty underneath helps perk me up, anyway. I find dodgy underwear = more likely to dress, stand like a slob. Good fitting, ok looking stuff = more pride in appearance.)
    I TRY to have a couple of rules when shopping:
    1. Never shop in a hurry. You’ll settle for less than good.
    2. If you see something that looks REALLY good on you (and you have a reasonable use for it) get it NOW. (Or at least layby). In a couple of weeks when you want it, it would be *perfect*, it’s not available, and you settle for second rate
    3. Never buy in fashion. If it’s never IN fashions, then it’s never OUT (I think this also translates as: buy classic pieces.)
    Being fashionable/making a statement doesn’t always equate to looking good…
    good luck
    hope you had fun on your holiday!

  12. colleen says:

    By way of a PS – I forgot to mention how important the sound of clothes can be. I love a swish in my skirts, dependent on both the cut (extravagent)and the fabric (silk is good).

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